[RULE] Testmail vs Popfilter

Jason Bechtel jasonbechtel at care2.com
Fri Oct 24 22:25:25 EEST 2003


Yeah, I looked at the list of "other programs"
and didn't see this one.  Also, the article made
it seem like something new, so I thought I'd
bring it to everyone's attention.

Your point #1 would actually seem somewhat
difficult to do in a standard way across "all"
mail clients.  I could see mutt or pine
supporting an external plain ASCII blacklist, but
I cannot imagine KMail or Evolution doing it (not
that those are particularly light-weight
programs).  Of course, I may just be showing my
ignorance of text-based clients.

Point 2 I cannot personally identify with.  If
I'm not interested in bank account scams and
genital enhancement pills now, I'm pretty damn
sure I won't be in the future as well...  :^)   I
would think a more important feature than putting
an optional expiration on filters would be to
integrate the filter management with the mail
client (similar to point #1).

You don't want to wind up writing your own mail
client.  How do you propose to achieve this goals?

Jason


---- Begin Original Message ----
 From: "M. Fioretti" <m.fioretti at inwind.it>
Sent: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:02:50 +0200
Subject: Re: [RULE] Testmail vs Popfilter

On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 08:48:26 at 08:48:26AM
-0400, Jason Bechtel  jasonbechtel at care2.com  wrote:
> Hi, guys.  I've been reading over the site and
read your page on
> Popfilter:
> 
> <http://www.rule-project.org/en/sw/popfilter.php>
> 
> I also happen to have recently read this
article on Linux Journal:
> 
> <http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7121>
> 
> It covers a very similar project called
"Testmail".  I haven't tried
> either so I can't comment on usability, etc.,
but perhaps you should
> give it a try.  It might be a worthy
replacement for Popfilter.
> 

Holy cow, you suggested a script I wrote to be
replaced... How do you dare? The gods of
computing will scratch your hard disks forever!

Seriously now. Thanks for the link. I had already
seen the testmail article, but not tried it yet.
There are also other programs for the same task.
IIRC, I listed them in the popfilter page. What I
wanted to add when I wrote popfilter was:

1) easy way to update the blacklist from *within*
the mail client
2) some timestamp feature so that blacklist
entries older than N days are canceled
automatically if wanted. If I'm not interested in
topic FOO today it doesn't mean it will always be
like so.

point 1) can be done for most programs of course,
probably also testmail. I never got around
polishing popfilter, and to implement fully point 2)

What is important to RULE users, of course, is to
know as many alternatives as possible to lower
their phone bill and make the most of their
connection: hence, the more we spread the
knowledge of all these tools the better.

Ciao,
	Marco Fioretti

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