[RULE] Suggestions: klipper, AbiWord, wiki

Martin Stricker shugal at gmx.de
Tue Jun 8 01:10:09 EEST 2004


"Ruth A. Kramer" wrote:

> M. Fioretti wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 00:51:05 AM -0400, Randy Kramer wrote:

> > > 3.  I wish you'd consider basing your website on a wiki
> >
> > The new website does have a search engine. About wikis in general,
> > this is what I wrote when we were discussing how to rebuild the
> > website itself:
> >
> > > frankly, I personally find adding stuff in a web form (wiki-wise)
> > > expensive for dialup contributors
> 
> Agreed (for anyone who has to pay by the byte).

And at least for me it takes more time to skim through changes in a wiki
than through my e-mails.

> > > and in general cumbersome and
> > > limited (unless you do everything outside in a real editor and
> > > then just paste it into the form)
> 
> I guess I'm used to the drawbacks of contributing to a wiki. ;-)

I agree with Marco's comments about wikis, and I have an additional one:
Security. At least by default, a wiki accepts input from anyone (I don't
know if that can be restricted to a fixed set of users). SPIP can be
configured to allow changes by several users, but here each user needs
to be created by the administrator. I'm more comfortable with that way -
but maybe I'm badly influenced by the usual CVS-based Open Source
projects, where you either are a long-time contributor and thus have
been granted committer access or not, which means you send a patch to
the mailing list or the administrator for consideration. If you do this
frequently in good quality, you'll eventually end up with committer
access yourself. ;-)


> Out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about the original
> (Ward's) wiki (http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?WelcomeVisitors)?

Limited like the other wikis I know.

> Is there a page started that lists the klipper and AbiWord
> suggestions and their current status?  If not, how would I start one?
> (And how do I join as a contributor?)

Ask Marco...

> OK.  Depending on your answers to the last paragraph, maybe I'll
> contribute something (almost certainly content / documentation rather
> than programming) ;-)

Don't underestimate the work of creating *good* documentation! Many
developers (including myself) have difficulty in writing end-user
documentation - we tend to assume more knowledge than normal users
have...

Best regards,
Martin Stricker
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