(2)[Rule-list] THE RULE SITE IS UP!

[Devon]

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On Wednesday 13 February 2002 04:48 am, Marco Fioretti wrote:

> Forgot something.....
>
> > 2) We should start to distinguish between:
> >
> >
> > 	b) Make *our* choice of packages,with comp files and all,
> > 	   and that cannot be anything else than a separate ISO image,
> > 	   as you did.
>
> ..if only because many of the RPMs that we will probably select already
> exist and have been proven to be RH compatible, but today one must grab
> them all around the Net.
>
> Sticking to the Postfix example: there have already been heated
> discussion on the Enigma list about which MTA should be *the* unix
> default for third millennium. Of course RH must listen to the majority
> of its paying customers, and the simple fact that sendmail, cyrus,
> kerberos.... are in the *base* install speaks volumes about this.

Not to mention the fact that RedHat supports the sendmail consortium 
financially. :)

> So, they are *not* moving sendmail from base just to please us. No
> problem, I say::
> 	we do an alternative ISO,
> 	test it well, and use it ourselves
>
> If (just for the sake of argument) it eventually differs from current
> RH CDs only for 20 MB, and there are twenty MB spare on the official
> CDs...
>
> why should they refuse to add it some day as another install option?

To date, their position has been that postfix conflicts with sendmail, 
and they don't want to build the optional choice into the installer. That 
isn't to say that things couldn't change down the road. Personally, I 
think they should offer the option.

> RH standard base install (sendmail, kerberos and all) would remain
> whatever RH market analysts repute better for their stock, but they
> could spread the missing RPMs we chose between THEIR two disks, and
> add also the "slim desktop" option, or whatever it is. If not, we
> wouldn't care, having our ISO anyway...
>
> This is what we wanted, right? Not force everybody to our idea of base,
> just be given another option.
>
> Does it make any sense, or should I send for more coffee and pizza?

This is the reason I went with the ISO option. You install our ISO, and 
have a functional system. Basic, but functional, and 100% RedHat 
compatible. You can then add any additional packages you like, possibly 
even from the official RedHat CDs, or the update site.

As far as forcing people to use our idea of 'base' I don't think they 
have a lot of options. I've got the installer down to a point now where 
it contains little more than the necessary packages and their 
dependencies. ;)

On a different topic, did you get the mail I sent from the savannah site? 
I see no way to add myself as a developer. Just this message on the 
developers page:

"If you would like to contribute to this project by becoming a developer, 
contact one of the project admins, designated in bold text below."

Let me know if I am missing something, please?

I need to get to work, I'll spend some more time looking at all this 
tonight. Take care,

- -D

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