[RULE] Suggestions: klipper, AbiWord, wiki

M. Fioretti mfioretti
Mon Jun 7 22:40:09 EEST 2004

On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 06:13:23 AM -0400, Ruth A. Kramer
 rhkramer at fast.net  wrote:

> I wish I was enough of a programmer to help.  Maybe someday!

No problem. Right now, for example, one of the things I need most is a
proof-reader/coeditor which helps me to find broken links in the new
website, and just _reformats_ (following one page of instructions) the
existing pages. If interested, please join!

> Far aside: The last time I heard, it didn't matter too much (in some
> senses) which file format AbiWord uses as the default / primary, as text
> importers import directly into AbiWord's internal "file format" (their
> piece table)

Yes, but when I specifically asked on the abi-developers list, they
said this:
> > 2) It doesn't plan (unlike KOffice, see again our minikde page) to
> >    converge on OASIS as primary format (the one used by OpenOffice).
> Out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about the original (Ward's)
> wiki (http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?WelcomeVisitors)?

Frankly, I didn't even know it existed before this post of yours. Even
in that, though, I see a mismatch between what I wrote earlier here
about this specific project (the "want to build one coherent and
compact useful resource" bit) and what's written there: "Most of all,
this is a forum where people share ideas! It changes as people come
and go". Here, information must remain even if I or any other get
nauseated of RULE tomorrow. Different goals, different tools.

> Is there a page started that lists the klipper and AbiWord suggestions
> and their current status? If not, how would I start one?  (And how do I
> join as a contributor?)

Since RPM packages for those applications already exist, the RULE way
to make you or anybody else have the wanted packages is:

1) have a base install as minimal and lean as possible
2) have a fast and as easy as possible way to customize #1 adding the
packages you want (ideally, something like "create a file with this
name, write one package per line inside and put it in this folder
before making the CD or install floppy").

Consider that generally packages will be in the RH/Fedora CDs that you
need to have anyway, so you just need an automatic way to tell the
installer "get those too".

Right now, we are in a phase were we need first of all to

3) document very well how the installer works, so everybody knows how
to achieve #1 and #2

So, you don't really need to create a web page to have those packages,
but we can sure use some help in the "content / documentation rather
than programming" sector to make it possible.

The way to actually contribute is to confirm me that you are
interested. Then I will register you as author in the system, and
you'll have write access to the web pages. The only substantial
difference then w.r.t a wiki is maybe the fact that the administrator
(me) must authorize publication, or can override changes, before a
page goes online.

Thanks for your interest,
          Marco Fioretti

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