[RULE] APT, YUM or URPMI on RULE, was: Mini-KDE

[M. Fioretti]

On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 21:48:51 PM +0200, Martin Stricker
 shugal at gmx.de  wrote: 
> Liam Proven wrote:
> > 
> > M. Fioretti wrote:
> > 
> > > ...if you just do this with the standard repositories on an old
> > > computer you are toast: the hard drive will be filled up in one
> > > nanosecond by unneeded or generally bloated stuff, from locales
> > > for all the languages you'll never speak to plugins for every
> > > database known to man...
> > 
> > Ah, yes, OK, good point.
> > 
> > I have not yet put this to the test, but I think that this is a
> > weakness of the way that RPMs are built.
> 
> I wouldn't blame the package format for this (though .deb has its
> advantages) but the packager.

The blame, when present, goes to both the original developers and to
packagers. When the first release many huge tarballs, each depending
from the others only for a few files, packagers can't do much. Look at
both KDE and Gnome for good examples. Can you, in Debian, pick kde
apps one by one (say *only* konqueror) and then, only the parts of
kdebase, kdelibs and Qt that konqueror actually needs?

The other example is, in RH/FC, how OpenOffice and locales are
managed. I have seen OOo, as packaged in FC2 made the neededHD space
jump from 1678 to 2231 MB today... And no matter what you select at
install time, you will end up with scattered locales of every language
known to man since the tower of Babel (this is not all the distro
fault, just synthsizing here).

That's why I've proposed the mini-kde: let's figure out how to trim
the original build process, then you can customize it to rpm, deb,
whatever.

Ciao,
	Marco

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