[RULE] APT, YUM or URPMI on RULE, was: Mini-KDE

Martin Stricker shugal at gmx.de
Thu Jul 29 22:04:22 EEST 2004

"Gabriel M. Beddingfield" wrote:

> Agreed.  But in my situation I have a 500MB HD on a laptop.  Booting
> to HD and running the OS from the CD-ROM would free up a ton of hard
> drive space for me.  After all, beating the system typically means
> making trade-offs.

Point taken. This makes absolutely sense, thank you for opening my eyes!

> ...But the bigger picture is one that I've been chewing on for a
> while. RULE's game-plan is to track RH/Fedora.  However, the hardware
> requirements of Fedora appear to be quickly leaving the little guy
> behind.

"Chasing" RHL/FC has historic reasons - the RULE project emerged out of
a ranting about too high systemrequirements on a Red Hat mailing list,
so we started with a bunch of Red Hat users.

RULE never intended to be only for one distro, we just started with Red
Hat, and no one has yet created a slinky version (or a separate
installer) for another distro. Personally, if it weren't for their
attitude, I'd try Debian or something debian-based next. Sadly I do not
have the time for that for at least the next 5 months. :-(((

> There seems to be uncertainty about chasing Fedora, and I think there
> is good reason.  Extrapolating into the future, switching distros may
> be the way to go.

Personally, I do not like the way Fedora is going. I'm also not very
fond of the way other Linux distros are going, partly except for RHEL -
which is of course the reason why Red Hat does things this way... ;-) I
am open to any distro (but I dislike Slackware and S.u.S.E. because I
dislike BSD-style Unix. Please note that this whole paragraph is just my
personal taste, nothing more.

The reason RULE has not yet adopted to Fedora is a technical problem: to
fit on a boot floppy and into small RAM, rpm must be compiled statically
against a slimmed-down clib, in Slinky's case busybox. This does not
seem to work with the version of rpm needed for Fedora Core. I once gave
it a try and failed, but I haven't found the time to ask about this on
rpm-list https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list

If you want to try to port slinky to Debian, or if you want to create a
new installer for Debian, *please* do so! I will try to help you with it
as far as my knowledge and time go, and I'm sure others on this list
will, too.

Best regards,
Martin Stricker
Homepage: http://www.martin-stricker.de/
Linux Migration Project: http://www.linux-migration.org/
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